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Jeff et al, I seem to recall our Regional Customer Service Manager (Jeff, you and I are in the same region, so I belive he is your's too) explain this to us, and then reassure us that we would not have a problem getting the source for 3.5.2. We are in the same boat as far as mods etc. However, I am not sure we are going to make their arbitrary deadline of uplifting this calendar year. JBA did monitor this forum. They rescinded that rediculous Y2K Support proposal that would have had us paying bueacoup $$$ to be able to call for help over the New Years holiday weekend, after reading complaints here and elsewhere. Let's see if GEAC reads this too, and be as responsive as JBA was. Jeff Lang General Fasteners Company Livonia, MI Jeff_Klipa/Harvard@harvardind.com@midrange.com on 06/06/2000 02:04:55 PM Please respond to JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com Sent by: owner-jbausers-l@midrange.com To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com cc: Subject: Do you use your Source Code...? For those of you who have been receiving Source Code from JBA along with your PTFs (Service Packs) and are expecting to continue receiving Source Code, I may have some bad news for you... You'd better dust of your contract and give it a good read... Especially the part that talks about the Source Code Provision... I received our V3.5.2B Service Pack 3 yesterday and it came without Source Code...!!! And we were told that we would not be getting Source Code in no uncertain terms... Upon closer inspection of our contract we see that we are not entitled to our Source Code, but they will hold it in escrow for us... Excuse me - I need my source code, thank you very much... Now I don't know about the rest of you but this hurts our business in a big way... We have lots of mods and we don't really want to pay GEAC to come in and maintain those mods for us every time we want to do an upgrade... We're stuck at V3.5.1 and need to get onto V3.5.2B by the end of the year at the latest... Not to mention the fact that they are losing all of their talent left and right... They don't have the resources to handle all of the requests they are going to get hit with for retrofitting mods... None of the people who were involved in our implementation are still around... So even if they could scrape up enough warm bodies, we would have a bunch of strangers with unknown skill sets working on our mods... Not to mention the wasted time and effort of our full time staff we have had devoted to this upgrade for the last year solid...!!! Also, Source Code was verbally promised to us in our sales cycle... And it's not just mods, we regularly use the source code to diagnose and usually fix problems in the code... We then send those fixes to JBA so they can include them in the next service pack... I am saddened and sickened to see that it has come to this... Our business has grown dependant on having source code and we will not be able to upgrade with out it... The livelihoods of many people are going to be affected by this turn of events... As a new member to this list I look forward to hearing your responses... I am sorry I had not known about the list sooner... I guess I've missed some interesting/lively discussion threads... Thank you... +--- | This is the JBA Software Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message send your mail to JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JBAUSERS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JBAUSERS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: doug333@aol.com. +--- +--- | This is the JBA Software Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message send your mail to JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JBAUSERS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JBAUSERS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: doug333@aol.com. +---
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