RE: AS/400 upgrade - JBA licence fee

Stuart,
It is my understanding that it is System 21 licenses, not Client Access.  I
reread that section in the contract and it refers to the software products
specified in the software products schedule and the schedule lists all the
System 21 applications.  Nothing is mentioned about Client Access.  Also I
checked with my source about Hitachi and they already had 120 users on their
620 and JBA was requiring them to go to 170 on the 720.  An increase of 50
for System 21 licenses.  When we purchased our 10 extra users, we purchased
them from JBA (Geac) not IBM.  Client Access is purchased with the AS/400.

Nancy



-----Original Message-----
From: Allen, Stuart [mailto:sallen@fellowes.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:26 AM
To: 'JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: AS/400 upgrade - JBA licence fee


Hi Nancy,

Re Hitachi, are you sure it was System 21 licences, and not Client Access?
Reason being, for each processor group, once you buy a certain number of CA
licences, that allowes you unlimed CA users. (ie on our P20 machine 100
licences = NOMAX).  As a 620 -> 720 upgrade can involve a change in
processor group, they may have had to purchase additional CA licences to
cover the new shortfall.

Regards,
Stuart
                                     
Stuart Allen
European Systems Analyst
Fellowes

mailto:sallen@fellowes.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henson, Nancy [SMTP:NHENSON@alltrista.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:33 PM
> To:   JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      RE: AS/400 upgrade - JBA licence fee
> Importance:   High
> 
> Yes, we have.  We purchased a 720 and are planning to migrate our data
> from
> a model 400 to the 720.  We have a 30 user license and JBA said we need to
> purchase an additional 10 to get us to 40.  We do not have all of the
> System
> 21 application but there are very few that we do not have.  I have also
> heard that JBA said that Hitachi, who already had over 100 users on a 620,
> needed to purchase additional licenses to move to a 720.  I do not
> understand how they determine the number of users required.  If someone
> from
> Hitachi is on this distribution list they may want to respond.  Also, it
> would be good if someone from JBA could explain how they determine the
> number of users.  :)  
> 
> Angus, if you want you can email me directly at nhenson@alltrista.com and
> we
> can discuss this further.
> 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Angus Appleby - Unwins Seeds
> > [mailto:aappleby@unwins-seeds.co.uk] 
> > Sent:       Wednesday, May 17, 2000 5:41 AM
> > To: 'JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject:    AS/400 upgrade - JBA licence fee
> > 
> > I am looking to upgrade my AS/400 620-2175 to (probably) a 720 machine.
> We
> > currently have a user licence of 50 users on System 21 and dont want or
> > require any more. JBA want to charge us a large fee based on a minimum
> > user count of the machine we want to upgrade to. Have any of you come
> > across a similar situation? Any ideas/suggestions on how to get the
> costs
> > down?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Angus
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