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Look at Fresche Solutions, Presto.
Minimal development and your green screen apps flourish in a web interface.
On 4/21/2025 1:03 PM, Raul Alberto Jager Weiler wrote:
Converting a green screen to the web is not a trivial task, BUT it is much
easier (cheaper and safer) than moving to another platform.
Writing a new application for the web is great, you have a very efficient
user interface, less limitations on what you can do, and easier to learn
for new users. True, there is a learning curve, once you get over it you
will never want to write for green screen again.
In both cases it is a MUST to write web applications, not green screen
simulation.
I have been using CGIDEV2, I know there are other options, but I did not
try them because I am very satisfied with it. Small programs, one program
for each task, fast, easy to debug and to update.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 12:39 PM myibmi via RPG400-L <
rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,system,
I see this in a differentiated way and not always positively for IBM. I
remember when I switched from assembler programming to my first IBM
an S/34 system. Cycles and indicators, everything in a fixed format,from
totally unfamiliar, but one important thing: Simple! Even moving away
the cycle and then the relational database, the system remained simple.The
result was a successful system, the AS400 with plenty of standardworkbenches
solutions. Today? I don't see anything anymore. Why? And this is where I
blame IBM the most. They have failed to make modern development
available to programmers. Move away from 5250, yes - but with what?JWalk,
EGL, VRPG? Useless in the past! How much time and money was wasted.it.
And now? Make web applications. Gladly, but give me the right tool for
ProfoundUI e.g. is great, but it should have come from IBM and shouldhave
been applicable for standard software developers. Or does anyone think,IBM
customers pay thousands just to get a GUI. If you believe rumors, that
would have had such an OA solution, put it in the drawer. And buildingweb
solutions is not that easy as it seems.Because
Then database. The RDB is great, but ancient. I cheered when an
announcement came that MongoDB would be available on the i. Not for long,
this intention was quietly laid to rest. Why I'm so excited about?
it maps data in a natural way. An order e.g. contains all the relevantPlus
data in a single document and still has full relational data access. No
headers, positions and all the conventional relational db file design.
the scalability, horizontally and vertically, without a fixed schema,software
GUI-based management and corresponding security - local or cloud based or
both. No, I'm not a MongoDB vendor, but this is my idea of modern
development.von
In the future, I no longer see the IBM i as a scale-out system as well.
Rather an enterprise system for large companies with their own staff.
It's not a bad idea to think outside the box and take a critical look at
certain trends.
And now, what keeps you on the IBM i, the web server, the database, the
development environment, the operating system?
Just my 2 cts.
KF
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Von: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag
Raul Alberto Jager Weiler
Gesendet: Montag, 21. April 2025 17:26
An: RPG programming on IBM i
Betreff: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools
Hi Patrik
¿do your users know that the IBM i can provide a very good web interface?
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 9:17 AM Patrik Schindler<poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Raul,users
Am 20.04.2025 um 00:37 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:
I realy love the green screen, most of my work I do there.Interesting. From all your comments I guessed quite the opposite.
But the users and the " decisions makers" like better the web.green
Once a user tries a web application he dos not what to go back to the
screen.That heavily depends on the type of user. What might be true for the
you know is quite different for most users I know. "My" users are mostlyIT
guys with a tendency towards being nerds.--
So, if we like to continue having a green screen for our use, be betterI prefer to actually ask the users what they prefer, and deliver that.
give the users web applications.
:wq! PoC
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