Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools -- RPG400-L

The web design gives you a wide range of options, a black and white web
page takes less time than DDS to design and it looks a little better than
green screen.
It can later be made prettier without changing the program.

As for the speed, writing the CGI in RPG is very fast.
The web got a reputation of being slow because of screen scrapers, php,
java, PC in between, and other options.

As for data input out of the office, it is much easier to find devices with
a browser than with a green screen.
Any celular phone can be used, connected everywhere, it can read bar code,
QR, upload sound, pictures, etc.

El jue, 17 de abr de 2025, 17:21, Steve M via RPG400-L <
rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

What Vern has written at the end of his post is the truest of all -
everyone is right and everyone is wrong.

Having been around a long time, in many different industries, I will
suggest that one industry to the next, and even one department within a
company to the next, will favor one or another.

Look at retail - so much of the software on the platform is written to the
green screen. However, once you move to the back-office, HR and such would
like a pretty GUI interface over their parts. Transportation is another
example - dock operations traditionally wants a green screen for speed of
response, whereas, dispatching desires a pretty GUI since their data will
be interfacing with routing software.

To mandate one or the other could, and would, be adversely received by
different individuals in different functional departments based upon how
they utilize the system.

Arguing over UI is just another version of "best tool for the job" and not
that just because you as a developer want to write pretty GUI and not green
screen (sorry that you need to be multi-faceted) and provide the user the
experience that best suits their needs. Put aside your developmental bias
and remember what we do isn't for our sake or use.

Yet again, just one man's thoughts.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Vern
Hamberg via RPG400-L
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 15:00
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools

Raul

I have long felt that a graphical interface (browser or something like
Visual Basic or C#) is slower for heads-down data entry, since it is
primarily eye-driven - for it to be otherwise requires careful design, as
you suggest. Use of the mouse is a visual thing - 5250 with good screen
design is like touch-typing, with newlines and tabs, your navigation is
mechanical.

I think both of us might be as right as the other, as wrong as the other,
I am not comfortable with an all-or-nothing statement about these things -
not even mine!

*Regards*

*Vern Hamberg*

IBM Champion 2025 <cid:part1.qzrobm6X.OmlXclFy@centurylink.net> CAAC
(COMMON Americas Advisory Council) IBM Influencer 2023

On 4/17/2025 2:25 PM, Raul Alberto Jager Weiler wrote:

For heads-on data entry the web is faster. You should add some
javascript, and design your forms to be used without a mouse.

El jue, 17 de abr de 2025, 16:17, Justin Taylor<jtaylor.0ab@xxxxxxxxx>
escribió:

True, although in 2025 any job where 5250 is the right tool is a job
you probably shouldn't be doing (e.g. heads-down data entry).

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 2:02 PM Patrik Schindler<poc@pocnetnet> wrote:

Hello Raul,

Am 17.04.2025 um 18:40 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:

IBM I is a great web server.
You don't need interactive.

Just because you have hammer, not everything has suddenly become a

nail.

Use the right tool for the job.

:wq! PoC

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