What keeps you on it?
30+ years of software integrations and modifications tailored to do what my business requires.
How do I replace that? Rebuild it all from the ground up using a new DB and tools? Cobble together cloud-based options to attempt to provide to the same functionality?
This is the quandary that most shops are in.
My 2 cents..
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: IBM i 7.6 Development tools
Hi,
I see this in a differentiated way and not always positively for IBM. I remember when I switched from assembler programming to my first IBM system, an S/34 system. Cycles and indicators, everything in a fixed format, totally unfamiliar, but one important thing: Simple! Even moving away from the cycle and then the relational database, the system remained simple. The result was a successful system, the AS400 with plenty of standard solutions. Today? I don't see anything anymore. Why? And this is where I blame IBM the most. They have failed to make modern development workbenches available to programmers. Move away from 5250, yes - but with what? JWalk, EGL, VRPG? Useless in the past! How much time and money was wasted.
And now? Make web applications. Gladly, but give me the right tool for it. ProfoundUI e.g. is great, but it should have come from IBM and should have been applicable for standard software developers. Or does anyone think, customers pay thousands just to get a GUI. If you believe rumors, that IBM would have had such an OA solution, put it in the drawer. And building web solutions is not that easy as it seems.
Then database. The RDB is great, but ancient. I cheered when an announcement came that MongoDB would be available on the i. Not for long, this intention was quietly laid to rest. Why I'm so excited about? Because it maps data in a natural way. An order e.g. contains all the relevant data in a single document and still has full relational data access. No headers, positions and all the conventional relational db file design. Plus the scalability, horizontally and vertically, without a fixed schema, GUI-based management and corresponding security - local or cloud based or both. No, I'm not a MongoDB vendor, but this is my idea of modern software development.
In the future, I no longer see the IBM i as a scale-out system as well. Rather an enterprise system for large companies with their own staff.
It's not a bad idea to think outside the box and take a critical look at certain trends.
And now, what keeps you on the IBM i, the web server, the database, the development environment, the operating system?
Just my 2 cts.
KF
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Von: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Raul Alberto Jager Weiler
Gesendet: Montag, 21. April 2025 17:26
An: RPG programming on IBM i
Betreff: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools
Hi Patrik
¿do your users know that the IBM i can provide a very good web interface?
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 9:17 AM Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Raul,
Am 20.04.2025 um 00:37 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:
I realy love the green screen, most of my work I do there.
Interesting. From all your comments I guessed quite the opposite.
But the users and the " decisions makers" like better the web.
Once a user tries a web application he dos not what to go back to the
green
screen.
That heavily depends on the type of user. What might be true for the users
you know is quite different for most users I know. "My" users are mostly IT
guys with a tendency towards being nerds.
So, if we like to continue having a green screen for our use, be better
give the users web applications.
I prefer to actually ask the users what they prefer, and deliver that.
:wq! PoC
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