Re: It might be time for a refactor when...

Hi Raul,

well - I started a bit later, but I've been through the IT-hype-cycle at least 4 or 5 times now. I developed traditional green screen, client/server and GUI with Delphi, VB, Python and Java, Web applications with different languages (Python, Ruby, JS) and frameworks (and even without framework) and different databases (DB2, Oracle, PostgreSQL, MS-SQL).

So after 35 years I also never thought of a "green screen renaissance" but in fact is came a few years ago from our company user base. After having a C/S GUI solution and a web solution for that use case, they wanted to go back to "green" after that - not necessarily because the green screen is better - but because in this case it fits better, and the development cycle is faster.

So I have to say it like Patrik - I don't think of any user interface as the "silver bullet" - every user interface and application architecture has its own unique set off advantages and disadvantages - and in the end, the "worm has to taste the fish and not the fisherman".

Kind regards,
Daniel

Am 24.07.2024 um 23:42 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:

I have been programing in green screen since the S/34. Moved to the web in
1998. In more than 20 years, and lots of applications, never found one that
could be better in green screen.
But, if you only know green screen...

El mié, 24 de jul de 2024, 03:18, Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:

Hello Daniel,

Am 23.07.2024 um 22:57 schrieb Daniel Gross <daniel@xxxxxxxx>:

I don't think that HTTP is a bad protocol - but it is intended to

transfer "documents" from server to client and back.

Thanks for speaking out with solid technical reasoning!

Http has been grossly abused and bent to fit a use case it wasn't exactly
fit for. And has been thrown upon with kludges upon kludges to make Web-UIs
feel more like real applications, in turn creating the need for
"frameworks" to help programmers master the mess because the resulting
stacked technology is utterly hard to comprehend.

Like you, I also dislike blind belief in web interfaces being superior in
general. No matter how often certain people assert this, it's a
generalization and there is never a silver bullet.

:wq! PoC



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