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That's not the interface...that's the application...

SAP isn't known for speed

Charles

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 3:39 PM Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Not all applications lend themselves to a web based interface. One IBM
i based company implemented SAP at the counters at all locations.
Transaction time went from several seconds to almost 2 minutes.
Contractors waiting for their parts for the day lost time waiting and
eventually found other suppliers. Sales went down, they had to build a
faster interface to fix it. Cost lots of lost sales and time to fix it.
They recovered but at what cost? The web based apps are not always the
solution.


Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

On Jul 23, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You era right, it is necessary to plan for clean up.
And it takes practice to get used to the stateless environments, but once
you get used to it you will never miss the state full conexión.
The clean up is a small price compared with the advantages of the
stateless
conexión.

El mar, 23 de jul de 2024, 15:11, Daniel Gross <daniel@xxxxxxxx>
escribió:


Von meinem iPad gesendet
Am 23.07.2024 um 18:58 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:

Also, the use of green screen or fat clients is a good reason to
refactor.
WEB user interfaces is much better.

Of course, web interfaces are the current "state-of-the-art" - but I
have
to say, that (at least IMHO) they lack one important feature: Stateful
Transaction Processing

All web interfaces are stateless by definition. They emulate a
statefulness by utilizing a bunch of technologies, like a shopping cart
or
a session token or something like that.

But in the end, if an session ends "abnormal" - there have to be
timeouts
and algorithms that detect inactive sessions to rollback database
actions -
where an aborted green screen session does all that without any
application
overhead.

So when in comes to transactions - maybe a stateful and transactional
user
interface is not the wrong choice.

Just my 2ct
Daniel
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