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Unless you grew up in the Unix ecosystem using vi or vim early in your
career you’ll find both of them have arcane methods of manipulating data.
I’m not arguing that they are not powerful useful tools, they are, I use
the quite often. They are just steeped in the “unix way” of commands with
unending switches that don’t necessarily make sense, are hard to build
(particularly when you need to put in delimiters to make apostrophes work)
and don’t have help pages worth the effort to look at them.

RDi and vscode both have their respective strengths and weaknesses, but
even with RPG of old, they outshine SEU (which I end up using almost daily
as well).

Patrik is a Unix guy so vi/vim come very naturally to him and more power to
that, but for those of us that have to figure out the arcane methods used
in those editors they are not very useful.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:14 AM Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Karl,

Am 20.01.2023 um 08:29 schrieb myibmi via RPG400-L <

IMHO: Each tool at its time.


Sometime I prefer SEU if it should be F&D, RDi for complex and oversight
programming and VSCode sometimes for converting to free (save the source
One thing is for sure, SEU is the most integrated tool in the IBM i
ecosystem, even if it is no longer developed further. It belongs to the IBM
i ever!

Allow me to bring in some more possibilities: Exploiting the "url opening"
facilities of vim!


Using vim to edit already existing code is easy, because positional
alignment can be easily gleaned from other lines. And if you have a local
display you can tilt 90°, you can see many, many lines at once. I really
love this "oversight".

(Because my machine of choice is running V4R5, I'm using positional RPG
when using RPG. This is an intentional choice making some fellow list
members wince in pain. But then, I'm a hobbyist.)

Ok, I'm a dinosaur :-)

I hope you will not anytime soon share their fate!

:wq! PoC

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