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Why using thousands of entities and views, when I can solve a complex
database with a nosql db much easier and more modern?

What about security?
How to implement dependencies or check dependencies between the data or you
just believe the data you get is correct and justs gets stored?
In the programs? But what about if the data is modified not from your
programs, i.e. if someone directly modifies the data?
... and finally you have to write the programs or procedures! So thousands
of views and entries (and you'll also have entries in noSQL databases, too!)
are not as good as thousands of programs or procedures?
NoSQL is good to store unstructured data!
But not for our critical business data!
(Okay I know noSQL stands for NOT ONLY SQL)

... and I do not want to start a new discussion here.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Birgitta Hauser
Modernization ? Education ? Consulting on IBM i


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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of LOGIC IT:
Karl FRITZ
Sent: Samstag, 5. März 2022 09:29
To: 'RPG programming on IBM i' <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: AW: Calendar entry generator

Richard,
I agree with you in most cases, but from this perspective we should've talk
about the database as well.
Why using thousands of entities and views, when I can solve a complex
database with a nosql db much easier and more modern?
An then, ultimate question: Why should customers still use an IBM i?

It's not the topic I know, but I thought I should mention it.
Karl

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von
Richard Schoen
Gesendet: Samstag, 5. März 2022 00:14
An: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: Calendar entry generator

Nothing against your tools, but much of the functionality you provide and I
used to provide is drop dead simple to implement in open source languages.
Then any open source dev or open minded RPG dev can maintain those apps or
APIs. And they integrate nicely to RPG/CL.

Of course you offer the comfort of support for your apps which is often
important.

There's definitely value in RPG based apps, but I don't relish my years of
having to hammer together odd code structures in RPG, CL and C to get
complex things done when I could have used Python, Node, Java or PHP to do
some of those things easier with the plethora of integration samples
available.

It's all a matter of perspective.

But I respect yours and Jon's position.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
Web: http://www.richardschoen.net
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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message: 3
date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:18:42 -0600
from: Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Calendar entry generator


On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Richard Schoen
<richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm much less fond of using RPG directly these days to do stuff that
is
better suited to the opensource APIs such as:
-Web service calls
-Spreadsheet exports
-Data importing
-Sending email
-Receiving email
-Interacting with Office365
etc.


Most of these are available to RPG ILE... And I'm adding things all the time
when customers request specific interfaces to Google or Office 365 (or other
platforms).


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