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There has been no formal deprecation. But you can safely assume that any op-code that is not supported in free format is effectively deprecated. Nothing new is added to the columnar format stuff except by accident (i.e. when an operation that works in free or fixed is enhanced).

I don't know why you ever thought you needed to use RPG III to "leave all that ILE stuff aside". In fact the default compile for RPG IV (DftActGrp(*Yes)) automagically leaves all the "ILE stuff" out. Maybe you were badly advised by someone who didn't know what they were talking about or ...

I am shuddering. The idea that anyone would write fixed-form code using indicators in this day and age (or even any time in the last 15+ years) is beyond my comprehension I'm afraid. Even for maintenance purposes it is hard to justify when it is so trivial to convert most things. For a hobbyist to want to restrict themselves to that format - I'm just gobsmacked to use a good old English expression. Why ... oh why do you limit yourself so?


Jon Paris



On Jun 9, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Jon,

Am 09.06.2021 um 17:42 schrieb Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

I suspect that the fact that you are using MOVE is what made John (and I) think that you were using RPG III.

I see. I tried RPG III once (so I could leave all that ILE stuff aside to have an easier start) and I was instantly appalled by the lack of horizontal space. This made me quickly adopt RPG IV.

I once even tried something super simple on the TK4- "Turnkey" MVS System. It has an RPG I compiler. Brr. <shudder>

MOVE was supported in the original RPG IV but was only there for compatibility and was discouraged in favor of EVAL. It has been basically deprecated since way back when /Free first came in 15+ years ago (V5?) and MOVE was deliberately not supported.

I learned all my habits and skills from two main sources: The ILE RPG Programmer's Guide with the accompanying reference, and by searching the web. The latter often directed me to mcpressonline.com.

I can't recall notes about deprecation in that manual. But it's several years now I've read that. I just need the reference occasionally. For example to look up which of the indicator positions for READxx have which meaning.

I can nearly *see* you shuddering. ;-)

:wq! PoC (Retrocomputing Hobbyist)

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