RE: Upcoming spring 2021 RPG enhancements announced today

Well, you would have to have a Node.js process running, or one would have to be started, so SOMETHING would need to be running. Much like Java, you don't want to start and stop a Node.js process for every call.

This is one of the major features in our Profound.js offering, the ability to call Node.js directly from RPG using a normal ILE call. It also provides a mechanism for Node.js to call RPG directly. I can tell you, it was not simple to implement.

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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Brad Stone
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Upcoming spring 2021 RPG enhancements announced today

If you haven't written an upper or lower ile function yet, where have you been? :)

What RPG really needs these days is the ability to parse JWTs, or be able to call node.js directly (not using a web service, etc... nothing else needing to be running). If you can already, I'd love to see how. There is so much functionality available with OSS (node.js being my favorite) that I wish I could call it similar to calling Java or even just calling a CL or RPG program.

Maybe that would be more suited for SQL (JWT processing that is)?



On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:10 AM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Naïve, hardly, you raise a good point.

As to your first question, I think you answered it yourself. The
compiler merely turns RPG into executable code. I don't believe there
is a classic "runtime" involved, since ultimately it winds up being
some fashion of MI before the executable is created. Therefore the
complier has to come up with a way to build efficient MI code to execute the instructions. Hence
only patching the complier. Furthermore if IBM wanted to patch more than
the compiler in one PTF they certainly can do that. (and sometimes
do...)

Yes, this has been done many, many times in the past going back
several versions if not releases.

-----Original Message-----
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Yeung
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Upcoming spring 2021 RPG enhancements announced today

7.3
ILE RPG runtime: SI76098 - you need this PTF on any 7.3 system where
you run a program with %LOWER, %UPPER, or %SPLIT ILE RPG compiler:
SI76100

Interesting. So you need to patch the runtime as well. Is this normal?
I don't recall other language updates mentioning runtime PTFs, only
compiler PTFs.

Notably, the RPG Cafe entry for the FOR-EACH, IN, %LIST, and %RANGE
bundle doesn't mention any runtime PTFs:

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6342821

Those strike me as more substantive changes. If anything, I would have
expected those to require an updated runtime. %LOWER, %UPPER, and
%SPLIT seem like functions that a competent and motivated RPG
programmer could implement themselves, and many *have* implemented their own DIY versions.
Granted, the DIY ones are almost always vastly more rudimentary than
these BIFs (for example, a lot of native-English shops wouldn't bother
to handle accented characters). But conceptually, these still seem
very achievable with the preexisting runtime. Is it naive of me to think that?

John Y.
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