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That $764 price says it is for the INITIAL fixed term license. What does the renewal fixed term license cost? Is it still the $300 per seat? where the difference is that if you ever stop paying the software subscription, things stop working? Is there a business partner that can answer this?

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Jack Callahan <jjcllhn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Jack Callahan <jjcllhn@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/18/2013 12:33PM
Subject: Re: SEU and V7R1.

Here's the way I understand the current prices and licensing:

$764- Floating user, single install initial fixed term license (+ Software
subscription and 12 months of support)

Multiple developers can use RDi, but only one at a time for 12 months. If I
were going this route, I would install RDi on a windows virtual machine and
control access. You get access to any product updates and support for a
year. After a year, you'd need to buy another fixed term license.

I believe IBM has announced discounts for this license, which is the $450
figure being kicked around.

Might make sense when you have consultants rather than full time developers

$940- Authorized user license (+ Software subscription and 12 months of
support)

One developer gets to use RDi, gets support and update for a year. After a
year, product still works, but you'd have to extend SS&S beyond the initial
period.

Makes the most sense when you have a development staff in a single location.

$1660 - Floating user (+ Software subscription and 12 months of support)

Multiple developers can use RDi, but only one at a time. Product continues
to work after initial period,but you'd have to extend SS&S beyond the
initial period.

Makes economic sense if you have developers in different time zones, or on
different shifts, so that they can "time-share" a single floating license
rather than require 2 separate authorized user licenses.

Or you could set a shop standard to not use RPG features introduce after
6.1. Amazing that a company chooses not to improve your productivity as a
developer for roughly $4 a day.


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I can't believe this has not come up before. Maybe I am blind.

Looking at the articles on the new V7R1 features that Kurt sent out I see
this gem!

Here's what's really interesting: SEU's syntax checking has been frozen at
the 6.1 level! That means that SEU will not recognize any of the 7.1
enhancements and will detect these new features as errors.

This is a disaster!

Both my current company and the previous company have refused to buy the
RDI tools and at $1,660 bucks I am not too surprised! Unless you work in a
shop where they will spend the $1700 bucks per developer plus maintenance
you are effectively locked out of using V7R1 features unless we turn off
syntax checking. A big reduction in productivity.

Anybody know of any efforts to get checking turned back on in V7R1?
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