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Lim Hock-Chai wrote:

2) It seems like there is always somewhere in the internet where somebody has created a jar file that contains some of the stuffs that you want to implement. That sound like a good think, doesn't it? It doesn't for me. For me, this seems to tell me that java is always missing something and requires you to download if from somewhere. It takes a lot of time search for what you need and download the jar file, put it in the class path, and you have to read all kind of document to understand how all those classes in this new jar file works. And three months late, if you happen to run into those codes again, you probably won't remember what those classes that you are using in you codes work.

Try writing significant C programs without a library of C functions; these nowadays come automatically with most compiler installations and, fortunately, are also now available to us in ILE RPG and other ILE languages. FORTRAN used to (probably still does) have "math function" libraries available. I got started with sockets through playing with IBM's "socket server API" kit from their Custom Technology Center. Scott Klement -- HTTPAPI, FTPAPI. Brad Stone -- GETURI. Alan Campin -- Trigger Mediator. StarBase, QUSRTOOL -- TAA Tools (I suspect some sites would go almost dead if TAA Tools was deleted from them.) Not wanting to ignore anyone, but the list goes quite a way beyond those.

At times, I think one of "our" biggest problems is that we _don't_ have near enough shared/downloadable toolkits.

IMO, of course.

Tom Liotta


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