RE: What do I use?

From: Paul Raulerson

I'm not trying to be either difficult or confusing. Rather, I asked you
for a sample of a Web Application that has subsecond response.

And I tried to explain that the issue is not the application, it's the UI.
You continue to waste time.

You would have to be at one of my client's sites to see a live version, or
you could go to my website (http://www.plutabrothers.com/PBDWeb/p1e.html)
and see the live demo there. Of course, you'll complain that the demo on my
site doesn't do complex enough processing, which is where you are being
difficult.

And of course, Aaron just told you he saw it live.

But I would simply have to see one first.

So rather than continue to drag this out, simply go to my website. Run the
demo. See that it gives sub-second response time. Then come back and tell
us why else it doesn't meet your requirements.

At the same time, please point us to a working application that meets those
same requirements running Citrix or better yet NX that we can test.

I have seen fast JSP applications, but the repsonse speed from these
applications is subject to, and limited by, the client and the network. In
other words, the browser has to render the page and load/interept the
Javascript. That takes a good deal of time to do anything significant.

On a WAN, the transmission time is negligible, and the rendering time on a
workstation is just as fast if not faster for HTML than it is for X-Windows
type of interfaces. In fact, every the thin client solutions I've seen over
the Internet all perform MUCH slower than a browser.

But we'll just compare with the Citrix application you show us.

WebSphere deployment can
and does add significantly to that cost, as you need WebSphere, databases
and the cost of Rational included in there.

Paul, I think you might be missing a few facts. WebSphere, the database and
WDSC are all free for iSeries shops.

Joe