RE: those darn newfangled languages WAS: RPG III

Bob Cozzi wrote on 09/02/2007 09:27:10 AM:

...[one of the] arguments for using /free was that it looks more like 

"modern" languages like Java and C, which the few kids coming out of 
college IT courses are used to. <<

Most of the "kids" today are programming with drag/drop stuff and not 

writing

much code at all.

I find that Java is "king" it two shops in North America: (1) IBM 
and (2) Sun. 
Most other companies (inside and outside of the midrange world) use Java 

like

iSeries shops use user-written CMD (commands). 

All those interpreted languages are about the only languages "kids" 
are learning
in school: JavaScript, PHP, Perl, Python. Of course they also currently 

teach

the .Net stuff and will continue to do so until they realize that 

Windows

Vista's XML-based user interface language is so much better. 

First off, as far as I know most schools still do their introductory 
computer science courses in Java or C.  Secondly, your point about "drag 
and drop" programming is why I would want to hire someone who took a 
computer science rather than someone who took "programming".  I did half 
my degree at one school and half at another, and in both cases the 
language used was secondary to the programming concepts taught.  After 
school, I was looking at some "programming" courses in the interest of 
keeping my skills up-to-date.  As far as I could tell, they teach the 
languages rather than teaching the software design and programming 
concepts.  As far as I am concerned, anyone who learns one programming 
language ought to be able to pick up another one fairly quickly - the only 
major gap being between object oriented and structured, and between 
imperative and declarative programming.

Knowledge of techniques, concepts and practices is much more important 
that knowledge of a specific language or operating environment.

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