RE: Death of RPG38 and RPG36 -and- more! -- RPG400-L

...> Hey, they don't have unlimited budgets like you do "in DC"! :-)

(But golly, S34 code! Wow! And I thought my last shop was retrograde!

-Alan



Yup...and I expect that's a common story...especially in the midwest...

Don in DC

At 02:40 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, you wrote:

I have several customers with no IT staff that would not know the answer
if IBM called, and would "presume" their code is current. All were offered
modernization projects, especially around Y2k. All said " if it's not
broke....".
Also working with a small software co - they have approx 8 Advanced 36
or early 170's running s36ee. Their annual IT budget is ZERO (maybe
hdw maintenance...), but have consistently purchased new hardware every
6 to 9 years (from IBM). Every year a few more upgrade, and these are the
stragglers. There is a native version of their pkg for 5 years so that's not
the
problem. When it's too slow, too full, or too worn out - they upgrade.
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
To: "RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Death of RPG38 and RPG36 -and- more!


Jim,

it might also be interesting to see how many shopped didn't/don't know
they're running this old stuff.

Don in DC

At 01:05 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, you wrote:

like officevision, which ibm extended at least once, but ibm has certainly
put the 1st nail in the coffin....at let shops know what's coming. I
imagine,
till some shops woke up and checked, IBM had no real idea how many
still run the old stuff.
jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Morris" <bmorris@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Death of RPG38 and RPG36 -and- more!


rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

...
Quoting from the article:
"First up, IBM says that WebSphere Development Studio for iSeries V5R4
will be the last release to ship with RPG II and COBOL compilers that
are
compatible with the System/36 and RPG III and COBOL compilers that are
compatible with the System/38. ...


IBM has withdrawn the planning statement about withdrawing support for
the 36- and 38-compatible RPG and COBOL compilers.  If I recall this
thread correctly, this is probably good news for some and bad news for
others on this list :)

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/support/iseries/planning/upgrade/v5r4
/planstmts.html

   RPG and COBOL System/36T and System/38T compatible compilers, July
2006

   IBM plans to continue to ship and support the following S/36 and S/38
compiler
   options as part of WebSphere Development Studio for iSeries in the
release after
   V5R4. IBM is withdrawing the previous planning statement that said
V5R4 will
   be the final release to include these compilers in the Software
Maintenance or
   Software Subscription contract.
      5722-WDS Option 32 - System/36 Compatible RPG II
      5722-WDS Option 33 - System/38 Compatible RPG III
      5722-WDS Option 42 - System/36 Compatible COBOL
      5722-WDS Option 43 - System/38 Compatible COBOL

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