RE: EMAIL Syntax Validation

D@mn!
I was always a Windows programmer for years, recently made the jump into 
RPG/400 world.
You guys always want to lay them on the table and see who has the 
bigger..........
There's either too much knowledge or too much ego, umm I think both.

Not directed at Shannon I think he knows his sh!t, hell I hate green 
screens, RPG and 400's. I LOVE MS .NET and Windows.
Right now RPG and 400's are feeding my kids, and I might start liking this 
gig and having fun.

    Dave Reiher
    System Analyst
    Prairie Farms Dairy - Corporate
    dreiher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Your statement about doing whatever you have to in order to bring home
that paycheck leads me to suspect that you are:

1) Very shortsighted
2) Someone the auditors should watch in order to prevent another Enron.
3) Not someone who cares about their work or their customers.


It's that simple.

Now, assuming you are the same Shannon O'Donnell that is an IBM
Certified Professional--AS/400 RPG Programmer, and is the author of an
industry-leading certification test for RPG IV programmers available
from ReviewNet.net and help compile "The MC Press Desktop Encyclopedia".

Then I'm disappointed.  I would have expected an experienced consultant
to be able to say NO once in awhile and still feed his kids.
Particularly if you not only want to feed your kids today, but in 10
years.

Lastly, for your information;  I'm in my mid 30's, have a BS in Computer
Science and have been professional (ie. paid) programmer for 15 years.

As far as a sheltered life, I don't think so.  I was laid off from my
last employer 3 weeks before getting married. Though I still do contract
work for them.  After being unemployed for 8 weeks, I started at
Mitsubishi as a contact employee. During which time I got into a few
highly charged "discussions" with one of the RPG developers about the
right and wrong way to do things.  Guess what, they hired me anyways and
the programmer with whom I had the "discussions" is no longer here.

Money is not the only reason I do what I do.


(David you have my apologies for this post)


Charles Wilt
--
iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
ph: 513-573-4343
fax: 513-398-1121
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon O'Donnell
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:24 PM
> To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: EMAIL Syntax Validation
> 
> That's a very naive statement about not taking a job if they 
> won't let you program in RPGIV. I suspect you are either very 
> young or you have led a very sheltered professional life. 
> 
> If you are a contractor and you want to eat, make your house 
> payment and buy your kids clothes, you do whatever you have 
> to to bring home that paycheck. It's that simple.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>     From: "Wilt, Charles"<CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Sent: 11/29/05 2:14:33 PM
>     To: "RPG programming on the AS400 / 
> iSeries"<rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Subject: RE: EMAIL Syntax Validation
>       Bob,
> 
>     Don't take this personally as it's not meant to be but...
> 
>     Every time I hear, "I'm just a contractor, I have to do 
> as the client
>     wants."
> 
>     It bugs the crap out of me.  It often seems to be the 
> contractor taking
>     the easy way out.  Sometimes, because the contractor 
> doesn't really
>     understand the "right" way.  But usually, the contractor 
> doesn't care as
>     long as he get paid.
> 
>     Granted, I've got a day job...so the contracting I've 
> done is on the
>     side, I don't depend on it. But I for one, would never 
> accept a job
>     involving new development where at minimum RPG IV 
> couldn't be used.
> 
>     I can't believe there's that many clients out there still 
> insisting on
>     RPG III that you can't say no and stay in business.  I 
> think the problem
>     is nobody wants to say NO and true down the money.
> 
>     How about it all you full time self employed consultants 
> out there:
>       Do most of your clients insist on RPG III?
>       Have you ever turned down a project due to a irrational RPG III
>     requirement?
>       Do you really try to show your RPG III clients the 
> benefits of RPG IV
>     and/or ILE RPG?
> 
> 
>     If so many clients still insist on RPG III, then we have 
> only ourselves
>     to blame.
> 
> 
> 
>     Charles Wilt
>     --
>     iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
>     Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
>     ph: 513-573-4343
>     fax: 513-398-1121
> 
>