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Jonathan thanks. I did put the file under user control (USROPN) before, did not seen to help. Your input is appreciated Gary >>> jonathan.mason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 9/29/2005 4:16 PM >>> Hi Gary <snip> I queried the join logical fields that got updated and they have the new values, but while the subfile application is running it doesn't seen to know yet, only if I get out and run it again. </snip> Could it be anything to do with your activation groups? If not, you could try manually closing and opening the file before you rebuild the subfile - that should have the same effect as ending and rerunning the program (at least as far as the joined logical file is concerned). Jonathan
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