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Tommy, No, it's not just you who finds them cryptic. I'm only 'hot' on it because I was one of those metioned by Rob who got caught when I hardcoded something a while back. In fact, I think it was Scott who put me on the right track then :-) I now have 'wrapper' procedures around most of the commonly-used API's - typically with a simpler parameter list (often using defaults and/or optional parameters) - it makes using the API's much simpler... Rory
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