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Dan <dan27649@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Perhaps you didn't mean it this way, Dave; American English or
> slang sometimes renders "clever" as a negative connotation. On the
> assumption that your intention was to say that "Programmers in India
> are just as smart & effective as programmers anywhere else", I would
> beg to differ.

Then I think you're heading for a shock.

> It is true that India has people who are talented and, indeed, Shijith
> may well be of extremely high intellect, but let me just ask everyone
> this: Given my assumption of Shijith's relative inexperience in RPG
> development, how many American companies would hire him/her at the
> rate they are paying Satyam?

It's not the right question. If a company were hiring him to work for them
in the US they would have to pay for him at US rates. Their guarantee of
quality for the contracted-out work is the agreed bench marks the software
has to meet, and that's all they really need. You and I will not beat the
competition from India on labour rates, nor on code quality. If we're going
to be able to compete with them we will have to leverage the advantages we
actually have. We are on the spot where our users are. We can meet them
face to face and engage with them directly. We understand the local
business environment. We are flexible and can respond quickly to changes in
requirements.

> Based on the ads I've seen, you can't even get your foot in the door
> anymore unless you have at least two years of programming experience.

For as long as I have been programming professionally, which is 30 years
now, that has been the problem. It's always been difficult to get your foot
in the door because nearly every employer wants someone with 18 months to 2
years experience.

> Answer that, and I'll continue the discussion.

Out of deference to David Gibbs I suggest any further discussion should
take place in CPF0000. I'm cross-posting this reply there.

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