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Yeah, that same test had one or two questions on using the O-Spec for file updating (something I haven't done since I can't remember when), and some other questions that were really out there. I think maybe there was one or two questions on BIFs, and maybe one on defining a prototype, a couple on date math, and I think maybe one on using a data structure define, only the question asked about using the *LIKE keyword in Factor 1 instead of as a D-spec keyword. It seemed to me that the test had been written by someone with a strong RPGII/RPGIII background who had access to an RPGIV manual but who had never actually done any real programming in RPGIV. Of course, that just points out the trouble in tests like this anyway. They test more on memorization than they do on real world, "how do you accomplish this programming goal" kinds of things. The IBM RPGIV certification test, which I took (and passed) a few years ago, was the same way, I thought. It was really lucky that I'd reviewed the manual prior to taking that test as most of the questions that were asked, in the real world, I'd have simply prompted in the editor for the answer rather than trying to remember semi-useless information. (e.g., "what position is the "K" in on an F-spec keyed file?" - Who cares?!?! Prompt it!) Oh well...that's probably all the ranting I'll do on this topic. :-0 -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Price, Brian Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:40 PM To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: Do you use BITOF? I had to take the exact same assessment. It was supposed to measure RPG IV and ILE skills. But it was more like RPG II and III. Brian Price Sr. Programmer/Analyst Jefferson Regional Medical Center 870.541.8770 priceb@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon ODonnell Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:32 PM To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries' Subject: Do you use BITOF? I took an RPG Assessment test the other day and to my surprise, there were FOUR QUESTIONS! On the results of using BITOF and BITON. I think that I have used those opcodes maybe twice in 17 years. Now either I'm not doing something right or the RPG Assessment test from BrainBench.com is woefully out of date. Does anyone use BITOFF and BITON on a even a semi-regular basis? Shannon O'Donnell
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