Re: Web Interfacing Advantages?

["Jim Franz" <jfranz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

For business reasons, I have begun to change the user interface
to gui (a VB app) when there was a requirement
to merge AS400 data from a green screen app into multiple Word docs.
Other green screen apps are sure to follow.
Walden, - what is the best way for a green screen rpg'r to learn .Net ?
(the company gives me no "play time" or training on their time.
jim franz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: Web Interfacing Advantages?


> OK, we'll piss of David, but this is where the thread is, sorry David.
>
> >And that is you have to learn .NET and
> >start using it to front end your RPG applications.
>
> Hey, I'm the first to push .NET! My point is, changing a program for
> technologies sake isn't a wise business move. If there is a driving
> _business_ reason for the change, .NET is the way to go (I was trying to
> stay language neutral! <G>) but if there's not a business reason to
> change, IT's time would be better spent where there are business
> requirements.
>
> I know, when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem is a
> nail, then again, you can solve lots of problems with a hammer. <G>
>
> -Walden
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Richter
> Sent: Thursday, 02 June, 2005 11:01
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: Web Interfacing Advantages?
>
> On 6/2/05, Walden H. Leverich <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > You mentioned one other interesting thing though, that the old school
> > guys "do not see a
> > need to move any of the apps." And that's something you should
> consider.
> > Make sure you're moving green screen apps to the browser for a valid
> > business reason -- "because it's cool" isn't a valid business reason.
> > You're spending time, money and effort when you move a screen from
> 5250
> > to the browser, if there's a business reason, great, if not leave it
> > where it is. This is a decision the users and management should be
> > involved in, not something IT decides. If the business will benefit
> from
> > web, get there, but if it won't, the "old school" guys may still know
> a
> > thing or two.
>
> If the old school guys level of knowledge of .NET is anything like
> what I knew of it this time last year, then I dont think the OSGs know
> enough to make that judgement.  Sure, the OSGs know the applications
> and that is critical, but if you dont know what can or cant be done
> with an asp.net web page or how long it takes to put one together,
> then you will not know what it takes to front end or replace those RPG
> applications.
>
> The current version of .NET has not been changed since it was
> released, what?, 4 years ago.  This year .NET 2.0 is being released
> for general availability.  Couple that with the 64 bit windows and
> dual core technologies being released also this year, by this time
> next year Windows will be in a very strong position.  I am not trying
> to pull anyones chain by posting this,  if you are an RPG programmer
> in a Windows/AS400 shop ( compared to Linux/as400 ) you have to be
> ready for what is to come.  And that is you have to learn .NET and
> start using it to front end your RPG applications.
>
> -Steve
>
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