RE: RPGIV: RPGIII to get a facelift? -- RPG400-L

Don't know what's going on.
I had to put a filter in my spam software to get rid of
"Postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" mail.
I don't see these messages on the subscriber messages list, so I'm
guessing the mail is going directly out to whomever it is from.
-Bob


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: RPGIV: RPGIII to get a facelift?
> From: "M. Lazarus" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, December 26, 2004 10:37 am
> To: "RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> These are old messages - the list is hiccuping!
> 
> At 10/26/04 02:14 AM, you wrote:
> 
> >I think IBM should focus 100% of their efforts on completing /FREE.
> >Until RPG is a completely free-form language, it's incomplete and it
> >does nothing to bring new recruits into the fold.  I've talked with
> >several "older" programmers who feel no need to move to /FREE because
> >H, F, D, and O specs are still fixed-format.  Younger programmers just
> >turn their nose up at the current neither-fish-nor-fowl /FREE
> >implementation.
> >
> >Seeing a moderately contemporary progam littered with /END-FREE and
> >/FREE is more than moderately annoying.  I can use my service program
> >library to handle MOVE issues (and others) but the lack of a free-form
> >GOTO/TAG is a burr under my coding saddle.  My standard structure for
> >handling a rich mixture of command keys, help panels, and lookups is
> >not well-suited for the glib suggestion in the Reference manual to
> >"use other operation codes, such as LEAVE, LEAVESR, ITER, and RETURN"
> >instead of GOTO.  Is there a technical reason GOTO and TAG can't be
> >free-formed?  Or is this the Programming Police in action, telling us
> >a complex set of nested loops for flow control promotes program
> >readability?  I'm thinking about my customers' junior programmers
> >trying to make sense out of Nested Loop Soup.
> >
> >Like most of us, I spent a lot of time in non-/FREE code, and I'd like
> >to convert it to /FREE without rewriting it.  It's well-structured
> >code (not spaghetti); then I use CODE (i.e. leave WDSC, hop into CODE)
> >to convert it, and it gets ugly with /END-FREE and /FREE from dealing
> >with the unsupported op codes.
> >
> >We have a tool, /FREE, to cut through layers of to-do lists.  It would
> >be a better tool if it were sharper, and charging for the rusty blades
> >of old, less efficient tools doesn't serve any purpose other than to
> >annoy the small number of customers requiring the facility for program
> >maintenance.
> >
> >-reeve
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:22:28 -0500, Bob Cozzi <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I spent one day at COMMON last week and talked with several of the IBM
> > > Canada RPG IV developers.  One of the questions that was asked was if IBM
> > > could/should start charging for the RPGII and RPGIII compilers (some 
> > > people
> > > call RPGIII, "RPG400").
> > >
> > > Anyway, I suggested that IBM should enhance RPG IV with two new features:
> > >
> > > 1) Allow blank lines in the source code
> > > 2) Support the compiler parameters in the H spec, and translate those 
> > > parms
> > > when the CVTRPGSRC command is used.
> > >
> > > Without leading your responses: I'm wondering if you feel charging for
> > > RPGIII would help/encourage you to move to RPGIV more aggressively?
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
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