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I honestly do not know. With any luck it will disappear within the next 2 years or so. Until that time, I'll keep the fixed format going. Ron Power Programmer Information Services City Of St. John's, NL P.O. Box 908 St. John's, NL A1C 5M2 Tel: 709-576-8132 Email: rpower@xxxxxxxxxx Website: http://www.stjohns.ca/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - Sir Winston Churchill Colin Williams <colin.williams@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 28/10/2004 09:23 AM Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: RPGIII to get a facelift? Ron, Do you think if enough of us tell IBM to get rid of "/free" directives, they might eventually do it. I think this is one of the main stumbling blocks preventing further uptake of free format. The bleeding edge guys accept free-format and dive in, but the other guys that are sitting on the fence look at all the ugly /free, /end-free in the code, and just say no! cheers Colin.W Extension 5800 Direct dial 0870 429 5800 -----Original Message----- From: RPower@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:RPower@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 28 October 2004 12:48 To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: RPGIII to get a facelift? Interesting point you make there. I make my opinions known here quite vocally, sometimes too much so. I am not a "yes" man, I state the facts and that doesn't always earn brownie points until later down the road when I can say "I told you so". We are currently using a mix and blend of RPGIII and RPGIV. But every RPGIII program that is worked on gets converted over to RPGIV at the same time while in maintenance. Offers a non-cost (or low cost) way of conversion because if a program needs to be worked on then it gets converted, if it's never worked on, then what's the point. I'm trying to get everyone to go free format, but that won't happen I don't think until the /free is gone so the code "looks" nice. Ron Power Programmer Information Services City Of St. John's, NL P.O. Box 908 St. John's, NL A1C 5M2 Tel: 709-576-8132 Email: rpower@xxxxxxxxxx Website: http://www.stjohns.ca/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - Sir Winston Churchill "Dan Bale" <dbale@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 27/10/2004 06:32 PM Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: RPGIII to get a facelift? The problem is that *you* know how your house is built. If your company's decision makers really understand how iSeries/OS400 is "built" and the value proposition behind it, they won't make a bad decision. Of course, if they're sitting on a foundation built on RPG-III (or -II), what's the likelihood that they know the capability of the iSeries? db > -----Original Message----- > From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx / RPower@xxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:41 PM > > See I don't see that argument as being as valid as it sounds. That's > like saying instead of repainting my house because I don't like the > colors I'll > rip down the walls and rebuild them so I can repaint them, only to find > out that the walls aren't as sturdy as they used to be in the end. The > platform is by far one of the best I've seen. I mean honestly, > in my time > on the iSeries I've never seen one "crash", although I've seen > quite a few > Windows based platforms crash, over and over. > > Ron Power -- This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. This e-mail communication and accompanying documents is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use of this information by individuals or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. 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