RE: RPGIII to get a facelift? TYPO -- RPG400-L

Yes, I'm a dumb-ass. It should have been "RPGIII" not RPGIV. 
I want IBM to put blank lines and compiler commands in RPGIII so that tools
to do conversion to RPG IV or other languages or whatever can be easier to
write and work with the code. Right now if there's a blank like you can't
compile. But stick a stupid "/SPACE" in there, and you're good to go. 
It was basically saying (to IBM) "Yes, I think you should drop support for
RPGIII, but first fix it up with two benign features that everybody needs."
Sorry for the typo!
-Bob


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Is this a typo?  Because RPGIV already allows blank lines in the source 
and compiler parameters in the H spec.  If you meant enhance RPGIII to do 
so, I sure don't want any enhancements to that dead horse.

The ONE thing that will speed up the adoption of RPGIV is adoption by the 
software vendors.  Second is the execution of managers that have written 
their own utilities to analyze code that requires the stringent 
requirements of RPGIII.

Will charging extra for RPGIII and RPGII cause these two hurdles to be 
overcome?
Will it upset more people than it pleases?

Frankly software vendors are doing their customers a huge disservice by 
continuing to support obsolete versions of the OS.  Until the "bread and 
butter" applications require a upgrade to the OS, (Example: can't print 
W2's this year because the W2 upgrade only runs on versions of OS 
currently supported by IBM and you are running V4R5), then many computers 
languish behind.  People think they can get by without paying for software 
subscription and then get stuck with a huge bill when they finally decide 
to move.  Then newer applications are moved to other platforms and the 
potential for the iSeries to shine falls behind.  In the long term, these 
vendors are shooting themselves in the foot.

Rob Berendt
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I spent one day at COMMON last week and talked with several of the IBM
Canada RPG IV developers.  One of the questions that was asked was if IBM
could/should start charging for the RPGII and RPGIII compilers (some 
people
call RPGIII, "RPG400").

Anyway, I suggested that IBM should enhance RPG IV with two new features:

1) Allow blank lines in the source code
2) Support the compiler parameters in the H spec, and translate those 
parms
when the CVTRPGSRC command is used.

Without leading your responses: I'm wondering if you feel charging for
RPGIII would help/encourage you to move to RPGIV more aggressively?

-Bob


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