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I can't resist saying that I use subroutines and sub procs and I think I have a good reason for it. There is only one place where I use subroutines in my development and that is within a sub-proc. That is handy for grouping logic within a sub-proc. Note that these subroutines contain things that are very specific to the sub proc and the sub proc rarely goes over 100 lines of code. My $.02, Aaron Bartell
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