RE: Benefits of Sub-procedures

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Bill Hopkins
10/24/2003 10:31 AM


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        Subject:        RE: Benefits of Sub-procedures

Why hire a manager who has to re-write. Instead should you not at least 
hire someone that had the ability to learn what was going on in the code 
to fix it. Just by using a list like this and/or the books on IBM site . 

 Isn't that were the real money was wasted? 

Bill Hopkins






"DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Actually, yes, I think I would be surprised by her actions.  In her
situation, the choices seem simple:

1) Call the guy who wrote the stuff for a consult.  Even without direct
access to a terminal, his experience could have resolved her problems
quickly.

2) Hire an outside expert to repair the problem.  Not as efficient, since
the consultant must gain understanding the hard way. 

3) Scrap a complete and basically functional app, and completely rewrite 
it
(in an archaic language/style).  By far the least productive of all 
choices,
since it means all the money spent on the initial development AND the 
money
spent on an unnecessary rewrite are WASTED. 

observation:
If the manager never reviewed the code before it hit her machine, then 
what
does she expect.  It's her job to understand what her box is sopposed to 
be
doing, and how it must be managed and maintained. 

This is sort of a hot button for me...  There's ever more pressure being
placed on us to produce the highest quality software, with the richest
feature-set, and snazziest interfaces.  Make it perfect and idiot-proof 
and
stable and portable.  But write it all in RPGII so our janitor/junior ops
programmer flunkie who programmed a S34 once back in 1984 can help to
maintain it for the next 40 years or so. 

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



-----Original Message-----
From: Booth Martin [mailto:Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:35 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Benefits of Sub-procedures


Can her reaction be a surprise? He's gone and suddenly she has a 
non-useful
application and bosses breathing down her neck. 
 
In a perfect world all IT shops would have 20% or more of programmer time
budgeted for training. But alas... it will never happen.
 
 
 
---------------------------------------------------------
Booth Martin http://www.MartinVT.com
Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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-------Original Message-------
 
From: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:26:28 PM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: Benefits of Sub-procedures
 
.....
 
Another horror story I have heard in the past year - another colleague
of mine had written a stand-alone application completely in RPGIV. He
even designed his database with 10-character field names and date and
time fields. He used sub-procedures. Then he cut his hand with a
band-saw and was out on medical leave for 2 1/2 months.
 
Needless to say, one of his managers had to make a change to his app.
She didn't understand any of it, so, she re-wrote the entire thing in
RPG/400. When he came back off of medical leave, he was told he could
not use any RPGIV at all, ....
 
Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.
913-492-9202 x41

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