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RE: Record name the same as the file name

Eric,

I guess it's time to resend the other email...

Rob Berendt
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 





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Rob,

I thought I had posted something about this, but.....

FWIW, creating files via DDL instead of DDS for use in RPG programs 
suffers
mostly from the lack of integrated index/view.  If the shop standard is to
use SQL for everything, I suppose there's no problem.  But as soon as you
try to use native random i/o (chain, setll, etc) you'll have problems. 

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:11 PM
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Quite true.  However you wouldn't believe how mad that makes people that 
they have to rename record formats.  People are extremely ana! about that. 

 In fact, I bet it has been the straw that has broken the camel's back on 
a few people moving from DDS to SQL to define their files.

Oh, I agree I'd rather have some additional features in RPG, providing 
it's a manpower issue.  However I'd hope that wouldn't be the case.

Rob Berendt
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 





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New feature?  We can already do that by renaming the format, right? 

Eric DeLong
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob cozzi [mailto:cozzi@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:08 PM
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Giving up?
How about looking at it as adding a new feature. The ability to have a 
file
whose format is the same name as the file.


Bob Cozzi
Cozzi Consulting
www.rpgiv.com


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:17 AM
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Subject: RE: Record name the same as the file name

Aren't we giving up something when we allow the record format name to 
equal
the file name? 
 
Isn't that just moving to the lowest common denominator? Should we be 
asking
that RPG give up a feature? Whether we like the feature or not is 
irrelevant

 
The rule of "Read files, write records" is not just an RPG thing. Besides,
who knows? Maybe in the future we'll wish we had the ability to have a mix
of record formats in a file. 
 
 
---------------------------------------------------------
Booth Martin http://www.MartinVT.com
Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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-------Original Message-------
 
From: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:03:31 AM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: Record name the same as the file name
 
A-F'ing-men
 
 
Bob Cozzi
Cozzi Consulting
www.rpgiv.com
 
 
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On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:52 AM
To: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Record name the same as the file name
 
I know that, with DDS, you always make the record format name different
than the file name.
I know that, with SQL, it defaults to making the record format name the
same as the file name. I further know there are tricks to renaming the
record format name. (These often involve naming the file what you want
the record format name to be and then renaming the file after the fact.)
I know that you can use a file level keyword to rename the record format
name.
However, why should we have to go through these tricks and shouldn't the
compiler just be modified to get over it?
 
Rob Berendt
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
 

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