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Bob, >I realize that I'm most likely preaching to the choir here on this >list... Am I? All of us except that other Bob C. <gd&r> Seriously, IMHO any programmer who finds /free "much more complex" really *is* a stagnant programmer and needs to get their proverbial head out of the sand. Just last week I was talking to several developers who work for various software consulting firms -- in fact I was talking to the head programmers for each. All had been on the S/3x line prior to the AS/400 introduction in 1988. All claimed they used RPG IV, but none of them had ever used subprocedures or service programs, prototyped calls instead of using PLIST/PARM, had any idea what a based DS was, understood the implications of activation groups, yada, yada. All but one said they never use EVAL, giving excuses like having a home-grown tool which read source looking for fields which get changed but would miss anything not in the result field column. So here they are, nearly 10 years later, still coding the same way instead of fixing their own utility because "it is their programming standard"! And these weren't just a lone programmer working for a non-IT related company. These were the head programmers for AS/400 consulting and programming firms. Sigh. Doug
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