RE: WDSC v5 (was: SEU vs. ?) -- RPG400-L

RAM is cheap.
If you work for yourself, RAM is cheap and cheap to install.
If you work for someone, RAM may be cheap in and of itself, but until it is
installed on a machine that runs Windows 2000 Pro or (god forbid!) XP it
isn't of much use. Until it is installed by the techno-people, it isn't much
use. P.O.'s need to be written, budget exceptions approved and so forth. 
I can run down to best buy, but I ran down to Circuit City because they're
an AS/400 shop, and go it there. Installed it in a few minutes and I'm off.

That was on my own machine--at the client, it took a budget exception, VP of
IT approval, and then the PC people had to order it from CDW, why? Because
that's their authorized supplier--then they installed it when it arrived. 
So that $30 to $40 someone originally posted, was actually $159 per 512Meg
simm. I needed two to make one gig of RAM. So that's $159x2 = $318 just for
the memory itself. Now add in the overhead of ordering, approval,
installing, shipping, etc., and you can see why it is NOT forty bucks to
install 1 gig of RAM just so you can spend a day or two installing WDSc
twice.

Bob Cozzi
Cozzi Consulting
www.rpgiv.com

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:36 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: WDSC v5 (was: SEU vs. ?)

Perspective is important Bob.  25 of 512 meg chips are certainly less than
$1200.  Installation is maybe... 20 minutes each? Do all 25 machines in one
day probably, 2 days for sure.



Now, free coffee for 25 programmers is at least a dollar a day, each?  Say,
$100/week?



So, the new RAM is about the price of 3 months of free coffee?  In return
the PCs boot faster, run lots faster, fail less often, and the programmer's
stride isn't broken while s/he sits and waits for a groggy screen.



Looked at that way, RAM is cheap. 

 

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Booth Martin   http://www.MartinVT.com

Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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-------Original Message-------

 

From: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries

Date: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47:10 AM

To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'

Subject: RE: WDSC v5 (was: SEU vs. ?)

 

$30 to $40 isn't strickly accurate--perhaps for 256 Meg you can get it at

$59 or so (plus or minus $10). But a company with say 25 developers would be

about $2500 + the labor to install it, figure what, another $500... so

that's a $3000 expense. If you could send someone to COMMON or RPG World

would you do that or add the extra memory to the PC's? 

 

 

Bob Cozzi

Cozzi Consulting

www.rpgiv.com

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Behalf Of Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:15 AM

To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'

Subject: RE: WDSC v5 (was: SEU vs. ?)

 

>but the Eclipse IDE is a RAM hungry beast.

 

Just for example, I check how much memory Eclipse (WDSc) is using every once

in a while and it pretty much stays at the 175 -200MB range almost all the

time. So you can see why you would want at _least_ 512MB (that is what I

have and I want to upgrade). Memory is so stinkin cheap now adays that it

shouldn't be a problem. Just watch for deals at your local Best Buy and you

can pick up 512MB of RAM for $30-$40.

 

Aaron Bartell

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