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Doug, Thank you. I can't see the use for a direct file anymore. I could see someone wanting to make sure that space was available for a big batch post. Something to stick in the big bag of tricks. I actually did some MAPICS work around 17-18 years ago and from what I remember they liked to preallocate a lot of space. I would start thinking that this file was about to fill, or already was, filled. Contact someone back at the consulting office and they explained the preallocation to me. If you initialized to *DFT instead of *DLT, how do you know how many records you actually do have? Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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