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>> I am going to use the offsets, but it still "bothers" me that I had to do that and I don't know why. Tracy - if you read the "Trigger Happy" article I referenced in my earlier post it explains what happened and why. IBM have _always_ said that you should use the offsets as the layout of the variable portion is not guaranteed. In V5R1 they made a change in the OS that meant that there could be "gaps" between the variable parts of the buffer layout - it has always been documented that you should use the offsets - some examples (often by people who should have known better) failed to heed that advice. You just got bitten by one of those. If you read my example you'll see it is _less_ work to do it right since you use external descriptions to do most of the work. Jon Paris Partner400
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