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Christ! Can't we all just get along? Talk about beating a dead horse! Go back to work. -----Original Message----- From: Terry@VTINFO.COM [mailto:Terry@VTINFO.COM] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:30 AM To: rpg400-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: email etiquette (was Dynamic Arrays) Tracy, Please don't even pretend to speak on my behalf , or any other list member's, for that matter. I too have found Simon's tome at times harsh, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. He has contributed too much to this forum to be dismissed as you seem about to do. You need to lighten up a bit, in my opinion. Regards, Terry Richardson Vermont Information Processing, Inc. terry@vtinfo.com Tracy Ball <tball@totalrespo To: "'rpg400-l@midrange.com'" <rpg400-l@midrange.com> nse.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: email etiquette (was Dynamic Arrays) rpg400-l-admin@mi drange.com 10/18/2002 10:23 AM Please respond to rpg400-l Simon, Did you invent this forum? I don't think so! If you are in here, then you are not only representing yourself, but you are also representing Midrange and the rpg/400 community in general. Frankly, if I had to wade through a bunch of egotistical idiots who believe what and how they say things isn't important, then I would much rather spend hours pouring over books and websites then give them their own satisfaction of thinking they are all high and mighty and that the rest of the people are somehow "bothering" them. The sad thing is, you have a good point and so did Scott, or Steve, or whoever it was. Yes, it would be much better for people to do a little research and try to get as much done on their own as possible. Sometimes that is done, sometimes it isn't. Regardless, why should anyone in here be a judge or jury either way? If someone asks a question that you feel you don't have time or patience to answer, then don't do it. I am sure there are plenty of people who will. And last but not least, and this is my point, I won't even read an email that comes from you any more, and therefore I won't learn anything from it, and I damn sure don't care where you stand! Multiply that times however many there are in here , and the reason this forum is here has just lost some of its luster. As for the majority in here, keep up the good work, this is still an invaluable tool for saving time and money! -Tracy -----Original Message----- From: Simon Coulter [mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:08 AM To: rpg400-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: email etiquette (was Dynamic Arrays) Hello Michael, You wrote: >FWIW, I didn't think Scott's post was either arrogant or out of line. A >little abrupt, maybe, but nowhere near the most abrupt I've seen on >this list (Simon, Al -- are you listening? :-). I realise that is retorical but yes, I am listening. I don't think Al deserves to be included though. I thought both Himanshu-san and Murali were lucky that they were called to task by someone other than me. I'd give them cause for complaint! Although I notice that neither of them have complained -- others have been aggrieved on their behalf. In both cases, the way the questions were asked indicated that very little research or effort had been expended on the part of the questioner. Few on this list appreciate the plethora of "show me how" questions that have been appearing over the last few months from people who are obviously out of their depth. "newbies" (that is such an awful word) should watch and read for a while to get a feel for the list. The really good people who frequent this list are not here to provide free education. We will help you with technical difficulties but we expect that you have at least read the appropriate manuals, read the relevant help text, searched the archives, and tried a few things for yourself before you bother us. You should phrase your questions in such a manner as to indicate what you've done to help yourselves. It is also reasonable for us to expect that you have had some training to equip you for the job you are attempting -- many of the "show me" questions indicate a serious lack of training. It is not our job to help you compensate for management who won't train you or help you do a task for which you are not qualified. Tracy (and others), if you are offended by something I say or write then that is your problem not mine. I am not here to pander to your sensibilities. If you don't like what I say them just ignore it. You might not like how I say something but I guarantee you will learn from it and by God you'll know where I stand (and I'll bet someone, somewhere will be offended by that reference to a non-existent entity -- either because they believe, or because they don't, or because they beleive in something else. See, I can't win without censoring my own words ...) Now having added my spice this broth I shall withdraw and let other cooks spoil it. Regards, Simon Coulter. -------------------------------------------------------------------- FlyByNight Software AS/400 Technical Specialists http://www.flybynight.com.au/ Phone: +61 3 9419 0175 Mobile: +61 0411 091 400 /"\ Fax: +61 3 9419 0175 mailto: shc@flybynight.com.au \ / X ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML E-Mail / \ -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
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