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Buck You forget a third group - those who would like to go to RPG IV/ILE but can't, because of management decisions. For those in this position, it is with increasing alarm that we see developments such as procedures, pointers, free RPG, etc. that makes us feel that not only have we missed the boat, but it is rapidly disappearing over the horizon. I know there are a number of people who have told this list that you can always convince the boss to at least try it. However, there can be very real barriers to this. In my case, I work with one of over 2 dozen subsidiaries around the world who use the same, Head Office supplied software. Any changes have to be (at least partly) justified on the basis that other subsidiaries can use them. And we can't use a language (i.e. RPG IV/ILE) that is not in common use every where else (Ever heard of Catch 22). Trying to convince my manager of the benefits of change is useless, as he must follow a policy dictated by the overseas Head Office. Funnily enough, the previous place I worked at 4 years ago had EXACTLY the same situation and philosophy. So Buck, while I'm not happy with the status quo, I am forced to accept it. And if IBM make newer RPG versions too radically different from RPG III, it will get harder still to try to get a change in the philosophies I must work under. The vast majority of RPG programmers are happy with the status quo and regard changes to the language with suspicion. The other group are annoyed that RPG isn't moving into the present fast enough.
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