RE: Why we don't use procedures more (was MOVE opcode in freeform /strange behavior w/%editc)

This is stuff you should be doing on your own, even with your own money.

It is the right thing to do.

Bob Cozzi
cozzi@rpgiv.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]
On
> Behalf Of Kevin Monahan
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:45 AM
> To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Why we don't use procedures more (was MOVE opcode in
freeform
> /strange behavior w/%editc)
>
> Rick,
> I'm in the same boat (except the part about the high hourly rate).  My
> employer does allow us to use and investigate new technologies, and
I've
> been able to teach myself some of the new stuff, but we (5
programmers) are
> constantly being given "top priority" projects with no breathing room,
> therefore no time to spend teaching ourselves things.  I've been
fortunate
> (don't ask me why) to spend more time than my coworkers at learning
> procedures (actually I think I've _made_ more time than they have) to
learn,
> but its hard with no one else to, as you put it, brainstorm with.
That is
> why I love this and the RPGIV list - I have printed and saved volumes
of
> code and advise, and when I have time I'll go back and read it!! :)
The
> idea of a class would be nice, but we have to pull teeth just to get a
> half-day each at the local NES user group yearly meeting!.
> Oh well, thanks for letting me blow off a small amount of steam.....
>
> Kevin Monahan
> Sr Programmer/Analyst
> JL Hammett Co
> 781-848-1000 x1114
> www.hammett.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]On
> Behalf Of Richard B Baird
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Why we don't use procedures more (was MOVE opcode in freeform
> /strange behavior w/%editc)
>
>
>
> Bob, Nelson, et al,
>
> I think I'm in the middle here, and I don't think I'm unique.  I
> desperately want to start and continue using procedures more, but I
have
> had certain barriers in my way, such as the fact that I work on a lot
of
> legacy stuff, at a high hourly rate, and I don't feel I should spend
my
> clients money "learning new stuff" or adding , and the lack of a
> peer/mentor whom I would work with daily to brainstorm on when and why
> using a procedure is a good thing, and when it's just fluff.  I used
to
> have the time, and the peers to learn the new stuff, but I'm kinda
'lonely'
> now.
>
> And I'm not completely unfamiliar with the concept either:  for years
and
> years, I've segregated duplicate code to programs that I can call from
> anywhere, just passing and returning parameters.  I do 90% of my new
> programs in rpgiv, but I still use a plain call to these "service
> programs".  I just don't bind or prototype them.
>
> The ibm manuals seem to compound the problem because they tend to tell
you
> too much - i don't have the time to dig through them and can't see the
> forest for the trees, so to speak.  I need to get to the meat of
something,
> bang it around a few times, then use the manuals for reference.
>
> maybe an FAQ entry on "procedure prototyping 101" with step by step
> explanations of the "how and why" of a simple procedure might help.
>
> I think the vast majority of us would love to start using them, and
would
> if we had the backing of those who sign our checks and a jumpstart....
>
> ttfn,
>
> rick
>
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