Re: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)

["Jim Franz" <jfranz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

RE: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)Currently working in a shop
with no standards, manager has actually kept the programmers from meeting to
develop standards. We are sludging thru rpg2, 3,& 4. Between the pgmrs, 2
contract, 3 in-house we do share ideas, but very quietly. Other contract
person was actually yelled at for using network server to share common
documents! We try, but if MIS management not into it, it's hard.
jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Rizwan Ahmed
To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:28 AM
Subject: RE: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)


As for among programmers when others are reluctant to adopt then where is
standards the result counts most of the time.....But you can take up collar
and say hey I did this using this API or ILE and hope that others come up
with something like this..

Rizwan Ahamed
-----Original Message-----
From:   Chris Rehm [SMTP:javadisciple@earthlink.net]
Sent:   Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:11 AM
To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)
> Aren't you confusing the tool with the object being constructed? I've been
> assuming in this discussion that programs are being constructed to
> standards, i.e. they are not the tool, they are the product. Construction
> workers are in fact required by law to build a house to current standards.
> Nobody tells them what tools to use, but if my house was not constructed
to
> standards, I'd be pretty upset, especially if it collapsed in the first
> earthquake that came along. Tools for a programmer would be SEU, SDA, RLU,
> RDA, etc, not the program they are writing.
I think your use of building standards is pretty good. After all, if a tract
home builder was decided to add a particular modification to a set of homes,
they would figure out the cost and time to implement their changes based on
the standards they used. When they got to that guy's work who had "known
better" they'd be screwed.
The same thing works with programming standards. If I am responsible for
planning out the implementation of a feature, I would use the standards I
believed the current code was written at. I'd then give my technical design
based on that. When I hit those "knew better" programs, I'd be hip deep.
> Peter Dow
Chris Rehm
javadisciple@earthlink.net
If you believe that the best technology wins the
marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.


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