RE: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propaganda) -- RPG400-L

Mr. Dow,

>Construction workers are in fact required by law to build a house to
current standards.
Correct, and in the same respect I may be required to create all programs to
be able to be called from a menu with no parms and also from another program
that passes parms to it.  This may be a standard but the guts of the
programs and what is used to build them is what we are talking about.

For the most part my point of view comes from people not wanting to learn
new technologies, but I have found out that this is not so bad because then
I am one of the guys that gets to research and test new stuff out.  This, in
the least, keeps my job interesting.

>Tools for a programmer would be SEU, SDA, RLU, RDA, etc, not the program
they are writing.
Yes, but don't forget to go another level deeper.  ILE, BIFF's, C API's, new
Java Calls, etc are all new "tools" that we can use to get the job done.

>you're thinking of application standards vs program standards, . . .
Application standards are making the F3 key be exit on all of the screens
and having the heading at the top white in color.

Aaron Bartell

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dow [mailto:pcdow@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:51 PM
To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Standards and Egos (was RE: ILE Propoganda)


Hi Brad,

Aren't you confusing the tool with the object being constructed? I've been
assuming in this discussion that programs are being constructed to
standards, i.e. they are not the tool, they are the product. Construction
workers are in fact required by law to build a house to current standards.
Nobody tells them what tools to use, but if my house was not constructed to
standards, I'd be pretty upset, especially if it collapsed in the first
earthquake that came along. Tools for a programmer would be SEU, SDA, RLU,
RDA, etc, not the program they are writing.

Or perhaps (hope you've had time to digest lunch <bg>) you're thinking of
application standards vs program standards, in which case you might say
programs are the tools used to build the application, but even there I'd
think of them as building blocks, not tools.

Regards,
Peter Dow
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 425-0194 voice
909 425-0196 fax


From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@taylorcorp.com>
> And we're back to square one.  Why should a construction worker not use a
> compound miter box because the rest of his team decided it was not a
> standard tool to use?  Should he be made to always use a circular saw?


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