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Hello Gary, My comments about the complexities of ILE were not specifically about overrides, but about ILE in general. And I did not mean to imply that programmers knew and understood everything about overrides in OPM; what I meant was that most programmers were able to use them without fully understanding all the technical details. When we (Pantheon Automatisering - a software company in Holland) recruit new programmers, we seldom hire people with RPG experience. We primary look for people with knowledge of and ability to understand business problems. They get a short training in RPG, DDS, CL and, last but not least, our set of template programs. Most of our programmers have a firm grasp of business problems and are very capable of solving our clients' problems. Only a few of our programmers have more than a working knowledge of RPG; they are the ones that create and maintain the template programs and the ones that help the others when they struggle with technical problems. For people like you (I presume) and me, who like to know all the technical details and have a dislike of things they don't fully understand, ILE makes life more interesting. For people to whom RPG is just a tool to get the job done and don't really care whether it is in RPG III or IV, ILE just adds complexity. Anyway, rest assured that I'll read your article with interest and that I'll give you feedback on it. Joep Beckeringh (reacting a little late; been away with wife and daughters for a few days) +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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