Re: Simple Subfile question -- RPG400-L

Man! You have been "in the business" nearly as long as I have.

They SHOULD HAVE improved subfiles over the years.  But you know how that 
goes.




>From: Jim Langston <jimlangston@conexfreight.com>
>Reply-To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>Subject: Re: Simple Subfile question
>Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:23:57 -0700
>
>1. I have created subfiles in the past.  And they weren't as difficult as 
>this
>    one is.  Nor should they be.
>2. I never said you don't need knowledge and experience.  I've been 
>programming
>    since I was 10 years old (literally) and am now 37 years old. I've been
>    programming professionally since I was 24 or so, about 13 years 
>professional
>    experience in many different languages on a few platforms.  Do I expect
>    a middle school to be able to program the things I do?  No.
>3. What is my 13 years professional experience, and my 14 years unpaid 
>experience,
>    chopped liver?
>4. Yes.  So why didn't they improve subfiles before giving it to us?  Or 
>improving
>    them over the years?
>
>Regards,
>
>Jim Langston
>
>Rick Childers wrote:
> >
> > Maybe they are design flaws and I have just gotten used to them.  But it 
>is
> > obvious that the mistakes that you were making, come from inexperience 
>with
> > AS400 subfiles.
> >   You said "Well, why should I need that much experience to do subfiles 
>to
> > be able to do one?"
> > 1. It doesn't take a programmer THAT MUCH experience to be able to 
>create a
> > subfile. (Unless your a hamburger shy of a Happy Meal) But the more
> > experience you have with anything, the more tricks/tips you learn, and 
>the
> > better, more efficient you will be at it.  I didn't have to consult a 
>manual
> > to know what you were doing wrong with your code. Why? Because I made 
>the
> > same mistakes with my first as400 subfile program. By making those 
>mistakes
> > I learned the proper way to create a subfile.
> > 2.  If you don't need knowledge or experience to program then any Middle
> > School kid that knows what a mouse is could take your job. Or maybe even
> > upper management writing their own programs. Personnaly I think we are 
>all
> > better off keeping mgmt using spreadsheets & the programs that WE 
>create.
> > 3.  You have to pay your dues.
> > 4.  Anything worth while is worth waiting for.
> >
> >    But hey, that's just an AS400 programmer's opinion.
> >
> > >From: Jim Langston <jimlangston@conexfreight.com>
> > >Reply-To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > >To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > >Subject: Re: Simple Subfile question
> > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:58:56 -0700
> > >
> > >Well, why should I need that much experience to do subfiles to be able 
>to
> > >do one?  I understand that's the way they are, but why?  I don't have
> > >this type of trouble with subfile type programs in windows.  In any
> > >language,
> > >C++, VB, Delphi.
> > >
> > >I consider it a design flaw.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Jim Langston
> > >
> > >Rick Childers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You just need a little more experience with subfiles.  After a 
>while,
> > >when
> > > > you have a subfile problem, you will know exactly how to fix it 
>without
> > >even
> > > > giving it much thought.  Then you will be cruisin'.
> > > >       Good luck,
> > > > Rick Childers
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