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Dean, >Tools at $100 apiece are _CHEAP_. I have >legal licenses to two emulation products, nearly $400 apiece and no >development going on _THERE_! So why did you need emulation products if you don't have a 400? And if $800 was justifiable for them, why is it such a stretch to pay $1K for CODE? >> Hanging out a shingle as an independent programmer is actually kinda >> cheap, even if you have to buy a small AS/400. > >Then let me see _YOU_ do it Mr. >I-know-everything-and-you're-wrong-even-if-you've-been-doing-it-for-twenty-yea >rs >8(! I started working on IBM midrange machines in 1979, and I don't pretend to know everything -- I follow these forums to learn. I do have some very strong opinions on certain topics, the value of a PC editor being one of them. But as a matter of fact, I do have my own 400 in my home. And I didn't even go through PID to get it at half price or 1% of value per month lease. And I didn't buy a used machine. And I still thought it was cheap. Today with V4 licenses being legally transferrable, you could do it for a fraction of the price I paid. Go to http://www.egghead.com/category/Servers.htm or eBay. For just over $2K you can get a RISC machine with legal V4 OS/400 in the P05 software tier. Then just buy licenses for the compilers and program products you need -- the P05 tier is affordable. If necessary, put that in a 2-3 year loan. Add $40 per month for software subscription for the P05 tier. My phone bills cost more per month than one of those 400's would cost me monthly across a couple of years. I don't know what you charge per hour, but if it is "nearly twice the average hourly rate" it would at most cost you a couple of hours pay per month. If that still sounds expensive for a machine that lets you develop code compatible with your largest client's box, then there are also the new timeshare machines available over the internet starting at about $25 per month. That wasn't an option when I bought my machine. Neither were transferable OS licenses. >Try putting aside your own ... I know whereof you speak -- I'm self-employed too and have been for all but about 4 of my years in this business. I charge what I'd consider to be under the "average hourly rate", and I still think having a 400 is very affordable. >YOUR shop in >particular might not require AS/Set, but most with BPCS _DO_. Ditto COOL for >MAPICS, PRO-GEN in some shops. You _ARE_ talking bringing these along if you >_ARE_ talking about a consultant being prepared for every single situation. Obviously it is not practical to license a copy of BPCS modules or JDE One World or SAP R/3 or whatever if that is your target market for clients. But I don't think anyone expects an IC to do that; that's not what I meant when I questioned why it is unreasonable for an IC to have their own copy of an editor. Doug +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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