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Certainly, this is the best response that I have read so far. I have been programming RPG for a mere three years. I remember what it was like at my first programming job. Lucky for me, I worked for a system's analyst that was patient and answered all of my questions. From some of the responses that I have read, many of you have obviously been programming for quite some time. I believe that your expectations are much too high. I graduated as the top programming student three years ago. Writing code is not hard. Like most activites, the more time you spend with it the better you get. What made the difference for me was 1). I had the burning desire to program 2). A natural ability to analyze 3). The ability to think in a logical and structured manner. If you have the three things I mentioned above and you have applied yourself in your studies, you won't have a problem. -----Original Message----- From: Jim [mailto:jcannon@antigua.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:59 PM To: RPG400-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Question concerning entry level programmer skills IMHO. Assuming the individual has the basic natural abilities. The ability to break a problem down to understandable logical steps is mandatory. This is just basic to any programming language. If he/she can't think in logical terms, there is no amount of training or schooling that will help. Another factor is the quality of the education they received. As a former RPG instructor in a local technical school, I can assure you, a diploma is no garantee the student learned anything. Only that they paid there full tuition. If I were you, I would make up my own test questions that YOU think the person needs to minimally qualify. You might give them a listing of a program and ask them to explain what the program does. You could even put errors in the listing and ask them to find them. If you find someone with the minimal qualifications, then make the commitment to bring them up to the standards you prefer. It's easier to teach a new dog old tricks, than an old dog new tricks. Do not let this process up to them. They don't know what skills you want. Lead them, and guide them. They will respond to your commitment and leadership in like manner. From: kjennings@garan.com To: RPG400-L@midrange.com Date sent: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:31:01 -0400 Subject: Question concerning entry level programmer skills Send reply to: RPG400-L@midrange.com Hi, group! In your opinion, what knowledge and skills should an entry level RPG programmer have fresh out of school? Kevin +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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