Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!)

["Nelson C. Smith" <ncsmith@xxxxxxxx>]

Certainly.  RPGII works just as well as it ever did.  Wrote subfiles on a
S/34 for years.  Only difference was we had to roll our own using arrays.
In some ways, it was easier.  Do I define my screens internally now? Of
course not. External is a greatly appreciated improvement.  Ditto for print
files.  Ditto for disk files.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
difference!!!)


> I strongly disagree.  _Can_ you define screens internally?  Other than
DSPLY
> opcode?  Subfiles?
>
> Totally different ballgame
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nelson C. Smith [SMTP:ncsmith@gate.net]
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:16 PM
> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's
> > the difference!!!)
> >
> > Every argument made for internal print files fits equally well for
> > internal
> > screen files.  Do you define your screens internally?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
> > To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:35 AM
> > Subject: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
> > difference!!!)
> >
> >
> > > Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:
> > >
> > > External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one program,
> > which
> > > is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across,
then
> > keep
> > > it in the RPG source!
> > >
> > > Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
> > > BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten
> > years
> > > ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating
> > printer
> > > DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a whole lot
you
> > can
> > > do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.
> > >
> > > Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development"
> > issue
> > > with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much
> > more
> > > maintenance than new development.
> > > Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
> > > Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right
> > there.
> > > External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
> > > Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit sessions,
> > two
> > > compiles.
> > > Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for
> > errors
> > in
> > > the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you need to
> > check
> > > the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer
file
> > > DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.
> > >
> > > All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do printer
> > specs
> > > either way.
> > >
> > > Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to
> > describe
> > > these things externally."
> > >
> > > - Dan Bale
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> > > > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > > > Subject: Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
> > > >
> > > > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using
them
> > in
> > > > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better
and
> > > > safer to
> > > > describe these things externally.
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