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It is still the users data. Your statement about the shipping department and payroll is not a good example because the payroll department are the users of that data, not the shipping department. You're right. It is our responsibility to set up the databases and security in such a way as to make sure the rules are enforced and such. However there is a market out there for Query, etc, and GUI based query packages. Therefore the users, and the management who authorizes these purchases, wants the users to have access. Do we want them to blame the 400 for not being flexible enough to perform ad hoc queries versus some PC based package, when it was really our fault? qappdsn@attglobal.net on 02/25/2000 10:02:03 AM Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet To: RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: Query/400 to RPG program Rob, I'm not picking on you, but you made a false statement that I've heard often enough to push my button! <g> It is -not- the users data. Users are employees and it is their employers data. He who foots the bill, owns the goods. IMHO, the role of IT/MIS is a stewardship role answerable to the employer, not the user. At the same time, it is to the best interest of the employer to have IT/MIS permit access to corporate data. The tenant of the IT/MIS department is the keeper of the keys. A data base should not be open for public consumption. It's not the shipping departments business to inquire as to what the A/P clerk is getting paid. So restrictions are necessary. That's our job to enforce, it's the employer to decide, it's the user to live with. J. Kilgore Rob Berendt wrote: > What is so bad about Query? Is this some sort of programmers union > uprising? 'The users are access their own data without going through > us! Wait, lets remove the easy maintainability of Query and put it into RPG!' > +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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