RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV

[Colin Williams <Williamsc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Do you not think you may be generalising there a little bit. 
Most of the package vendors spend there money on giving their customers
what they want eg enhanced functionality and interfacing to new
technologies.
Im not sure that they get many requests from customers for complete
rewrites of their code, because the customers development staff think
the
coding style is out of date.

If you have business critical applications running at multiple client
sites, that work today, are you prepared to risk their wrath by
introducing more errors, rewriting code that is proven and works. im not
convinced. To do something like that requires a lot of support.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bale, Dan [mailto:DBale@TFSA.Textron.com]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:45 PM
To: 'RPG400-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV


John,

One problem.  The JBA's of the world don't give a rat's ass 
about the people
who have to support and maintain the product.  After all, they 
don't sell it
to the programmers.  Heck, at that level, they don't even sell 
it to the MIS
department.  They sell it to the CEO's.

My gosh!  If management had any sense of the nightmares brought 
on by the
convoluted code in these million dollar packages...  Well, .... 
well, well,
they _still_ wouldn't give a damn.

So you want to start a "Mass mailing" to the worst 3rd party 
vendors?  IMH(but jaded)O, you'd be wasting your time.  Sorry
for being so blunt, but...

- Dan Bale

-----Original Message-----
From: John P Carr [mailto:jpcarr@tredegar.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 3:37 PM
To: RPG400-L
Subject: RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV


""but there  are some big-name software packages out there that 
are sticking
to their
70's roots. ""


Why not start a "Mass" mailing to the worst 3rd party vendors 
petitioning
them 
to use new RPGIV design paradigms??   

Maybe send them a sample of their own code,  and one written "Better"  
using RPGIV and sign it as concerned customers?

Raise the visibility of their  @#$%   code.    One of the 
hardest parts of 
trying to get shops to use RPGIV is the argument that they 
"Still" have to 
maintain  RPGIII vendor code.   

Tell the vendors that they are *NOT helping their customers with their 
products.

kinda vigilante I know,   but it's like trying to move a battleship with
these guys.

Well just a thought.
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