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John, One problem. The JBA's of the world don't give a rat's ass about the people who have to support and maintain the product. After all, they don't sell it to the programmers. Heck, at that level, they don't even sell it to the MIS department. They sell it to the CEO's. My gosh! If management had any sense of the nightmares brought on by the convoluted code in these million dollar packages... Well, .... well, well, they _still_ wouldn't give a damn. So you want to start a "Mass mailing" to the worst 3rd party vendors? IMH(but jaded)O, you'd be wasting your time. Sorry for being so blunt, but... - Dan Bale -----Original Message----- From: John P Carr [mailto:jpcarr@tredegar.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 3:37 PM To: RPG400-L Subject: RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV ""but there are some big-name software packages out there that are sticking to their 70's roots. "" Why not start a "Mass" mailing to the worst 3rd party vendors petitioning them to use new RPGIV design paradigms?? Maybe send them a sample of their own code, and one written "Better" using RPGIV and sign it as concerned customers? Raise the visibility of their @#$% code. One of the hardest parts of trying to get shops to use RPGIV is the argument that they "Still" have to maintain RPGIII vendor code. Tell the vendors that they are *NOT helping their customers with their products. kinda vigilante I know, but it's like trying to move a battleship with these guys. Well just a thought. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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