RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"

David,

This argument that keeps coming up, as you put it:

>>If a shop doesn't want to use it they can simply
>>have a standard that says "no use of the CF spec".

is without merit (IMHO). The "thou shalt nots" just don't work.

I never speak about the CF-spec except here in this mailing list.

What I hear is that programmers have to work hard, fight, change jobs,
whatever to get their bosses to allow them to write in RPG. SO the "thou
shalt not" applies to the entire language.

The reasons, (1) skill level/availability, (2) Understanding that ILE is not
RPG IV that there are not two languages, one called RPG IV and one called
"ILE RPG".

To me adding the CF-spec to the mix creates yet a 3rd issue, now they have
to comprehend that we have one RPG IV instead of "RPG IV", "ILE RPG" and RPG
IV with CF-specs" and "ILE RPG with CF-specs".


>
> I know you talk to thousands of people, but it's difficult to imagine that
> you've had thousands of conversations about the CF spec. Unless you're
> introducing the topic to them at your classes and seminars, that is. If
> you're the first person to break the news to them about the new
> spec they're
> obviously going to be highly influenced by your own attitude to
> it, and it's
> clear that you're very much against it. Especially when they're talking to
> the author of THE book on RPG.
>
> I'm not accusing you of deliberate bias, but it's hard to be
> objective when
> summarising the results of private conversations, particularly if one has
> taken a stance in them oneself. Don't disparage comments made on this list
> by a few dozen respondents. A few dozen out of the total membership (maybe
> David can give us the total number of subscribers) is highly significant
> statistically. The list is a public forum open to every RPG programmer in
> the world, and importantly the conversations in it take place in the open
> and on record.
>
> Dave Kahn
> Johnson & Johnson International (Ethicon) France
> Phone : +33 1 55 00 3180
> Email :  dkahn1@jnjfr.jnj.com (work)
>          dkahn@cix.co.uk      (home)
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
> Date: 05 August 1999 03:36
> À: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Objet: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>
>
> Perhaps after a few years of RPG IV code, if people want to go the
> 'RPG V' route, then sure, go ahead, but in today's world, CF-spec will
> kill RPG IV.
>
> But, hey I only speak from talking to thousands and thousands of RPG
> programmers, not a few dozen respondents from this mailing list (as IBM
> apparently does).
>
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