Re: Code/400 -- RPG400-L

Okay, before the comments come in on the message below, I'm breaking in a
new keyboard on my laptop... Yeah, that's it! :)

Bob Cozzi


----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cozzi <cozzi@rpgiv.com>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: Code/400


> Having personally experienced Jon's cry of anguish, I can attest to his
> comments. When Jon is "forced" to use SEU, he is a fish out of water. (or
is
> that "Phish"?)
>
> You may have read the commands in the AS/400 news group about Code/400 and
> CodeStudio, that I solicited recently. There were two major issues and
> several lesser issue that "keep" people from using CodeStudio or Code/400.
> Of course, non of these issues are accurate problems with either product,
> but rather just perception problems on the part of the AS/400 developer.
>
> 1. Inability to do an automatic Load/Save from and to an AS/400 source
file
> member.
> 2. Cost of ownership.
>
> All Windows-based SEU products do an automatic download and automatic
upload
> from and to the AS/400.
> All Windows-based SEU products have a free or lengthy trial version
> available.
>
> My feels are that when it comes down to it, people use what they're used
to
> using. Change doesn't come easy. Perhaps if Microsoft would have written
> something, people would have started to use it; they do know how to market
> products, wherease, IBM does not.
>
> Bob Cozzi
> www.rpgiv.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jon.Paris@halinfo.it>
> To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: Code/400
>
>
> >
> >
> >  >> It does concern me that, even among people that use it alot they say
> they
> > only use it for 10% of their development because of the overhead.
> >
> > Personally Rob I use it 99% of the time. You can hear the screams of
agony
> a
> > mile away when I'm forced to use SEU. I have never heard this comment
> before and
> > have no idea as to what 'overhead' they mean.
> >
> >  >> I've heard some people say that it lacks many features of PDM, such
as
> > option 25-F13 to search multiple members and the ilk.
> >
> > It has multi-member search, and a whole lot more. Can't think of
anything
> in PDM
> > I use that it doesn't support other than a simple 'copy these sources to
> another
> > file'
> >
> >  >> I've heard that if you come from a SEU background you can turn on
the
> area
> > to the left to act like SEU.
> >
> > Correct - in fact that is set on as the default now. There are a couple
of
> > things that don't work fully - but you can always program them
yourself!!
> >
> >  >> It amazes me that after being out here for years that it still does
> not have
> > prompting for CL commands.  Perhaps it needs an online editing mode.
> >
> > It does have prompting for CL commands, but it uses the 5250 session to
do
> it.
> > The reason they don't do it (apart from it being complex) is that they
> could not
> > prompt for all the hundreds (thousands?) of commands you and sw vendors
> may have
> > added to the system without linking to the 400 anyway, so why not just
use
> the
> > existing prompter. Which is just what they do.
> >
> >  >> You don't suppose they would not support CL commands in RPG because
> Code/400
> > doesn't support command prompting?
> >
> > No - nothing to do with it. There are multiple problems in doing this.
> Even CL
> > doesn't really compile the stuff - it just does an elaborate version of
> > QCMDEXC!! (or rather the other one which I can't recall that lets you
> handle
> > errors ;-).
> >
> >
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