Re: Code/400 -- RPG400-L

Having personally experienced Jon's cry of anguish, I can attest to his
comments. When Jon is "forced" to use SEU, he is a fish out of water. (or is
that "Phish"?)

You may have read the commands in the AS/400 news group about Code/400 and
CodeStudio, that I solicited recently. There were two major issues and
several lesser issue that "keep" people from using CodeStudio or Code/400.
Of course, non of these issues are accurate problems with either product,
but rather just perception problems on the part of the AS/400 developer.

1. Inability to do an automatic Load/Save from and to an AS/400 source file
member.
2. Cost of ownership.

All Windows-based SEU products do an automatic download and automatic upload
from and to the AS/400.
All Windows-based SEU products have a free or lengthy trial version
available.

My feels are that when it comes down to it, people use what they're used to
using. Change doesn't come easy. Perhaps if Microsoft would have written
something, people would have started to use it; they do know how to market
products, wherease, IBM does not.

Bob Cozzi
www.rpgiv.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <Jon.Paris@halinfo.it>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: Code/400


>
>
>  >> It does concern me that, even among people that use it alot they say
they
> only use it for 10% of their development because of the overhead.
>
> Personally Rob I use it 99% of the time. You can hear the screams of agony
a
> mile away when I'm forced to use SEU. I have never heard this comment
before and
> have no idea as to what 'overhead' they mean.
>
>  >> I've heard some people say that it lacks many features of PDM, such as
> option 25-F13 to search multiple members and the ilk.
>
> It has multi-member search, and a whole lot more. Can't think of anything
in PDM
> I use that it doesn't support other than a simple 'copy these sources to
another
> file'
>
>  >> I've heard that if you come from a SEU background you can turn on the
area
> to the left to act like SEU.
>
> Correct - in fact that is set on as the default now. There are a couple of
> things that don't work fully - but you can always program them yourself!!
>
>  >> It amazes me that after being out here for years that it still does
not have
> prompting for CL commands.  Perhaps it needs an online editing mode.
>
> It does have prompting for CL commands, but it uses the 5250 session to do
it.
> The reason they don't do it (apart from it being complex) is that they
could not
> prompt for all the hundreds (thousands?) of commands you and sw vendors
may have
> added to the system without linking to the 400 anyway, so why not just use
the
> existing prompter. Which is just what they do.
>
>  >> You don't suppose they would not support CL commands in RPG because
Code/400
> doesn't support command prompting?
>
> No - nothing to do with it. There are multiple problems in doing this.
Even CL
> doesn't really compile the stuff - it just does an elaborate version of
> QCMDEXC!! (or rather the other one which I can't recall that lets you
handle
> errors ;-).
>
>
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