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Yes, differences of genus (or kind.)

BTW, I think I misspoke - it does not hang the machine, the machine will crash, as I understand it. But that is still better than getting control of it, I suppose, although inconvenient.

There are several APIs with "omissible" parameters or parameter groups. Not just the CEE ones - I just saw that a remote journaling API has an omissible group. I guess the issue is that the API will take whatever pointer it gets when a parameter is not passed, and whether that means a badly-designed API is a question for another day. So I just make sure to declare a parameter every time now. The place I ran into this (never had a crash, BTW) was using the date conversion routines.

Later
Vern

At 11:44 AM 12/29/2005, you wrote:

I understand your point, Vern, but do you see the difference?  Heck, if I'm
a programmer on ANY box, I can hang the system in a matter of seconds.  In a
Unix machine, it's something like "rm /", on an iSeries, it's DLTLIB QSYS.
While I don't like the fact that you can hang the machine with a bad API
call, that's a far cry from someone hanging the machine with just TCP/IP
access and no passwords (much less, as you point out, taking control of the
machine).

This is a really important point, folks.  The iSeries is much, much, much,
much more secure than just about any machine out there.  This is not
opinion, not hype, it's plain fact.  Anybody who tells you different is
smoking carpet fibers.

Joe


> From: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hey, Joe
>
> I don't know what is involved, but it is said that if you do not pass the
> so-called "omissible" parameter to the CEE* APIs, a machine lock-up is
> possible. The docs says that if you "omit" the parameter, you must pass a
> null pointer. (This does not seem like the meaning of "omit", but what do
> I know?)
>
> This is not something I found at IBM, I believe I was told this by a
> support person.
>
> But this does give anyone "control of the computer", it causes a hang.
>
> I do not believe this is FUD.


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