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John,

Yes you still need 5733ops however I think IBMs direction would be towards
the RPM packaging as opposed to the OPS LPP. It's much easier for them to
deploy things via RPM than with a LPP.

At POWERUp18 week after next we can get the direction guidelines from Jessie
Gorzinski who now manages those products for IBM. It's my impression given
comments from the WMCPA conference and others that the RPM route is the
current favorite.

Most of the information you just dug up is fairly new, I think posted
originally in early March.


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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: OpenSource [mailto:opensource-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
Yeung
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:07 PM
To: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IBMiOSS] RPMs, yum, and 5733-OPS

There hasn't been a lot of chatter on the channels I follow (this and other
midrange.com lists, Ryver, Stack Overflow), but I happened to notice some
recent updates to the wiki hosted on Bitbucket and the relevant IBM
developerWorks pages (I guess nominally also a wiki, but for most of us it
amounts to a collection of articles with comments).

The most notable and exciting has to do with RPMs and yum. This has been
hinted at for a while, but it seems that things have progressed enough to
have crossed some threshold:

[From the Open Source Technologies page <https://ibm.co/29zvycS>]

Many open source packages, including Node.js version 8, are available for
IBM i 7.2 and newer in RPM form. Hundreds of tools and libraries are
available in this technology preview, and getting started is easy!
See Open Source RPM's for more informaiton

[From the Open Source RPMs page <https://ibm.co/2I3K26c>]

Some notable deliveries include:

* Node.js version 8
* Python 3.6
* The 'less' utility
* git
* The 'updatedb' and 'locate' utilities (in the 'findutils' package)
* GCC 6.3.0 and many development tools such as automake, autoconf, m4,
libtool, etc.
* GNU versions of many common utilities such as ls, grep, sed, awk.....
* GNU Nano
* many, many more things.....

One of the first things asked on the RPMs - Getting Started page
<https://ibm.co/2KRzAgy> (in a comment from Bryan Dietz) is
(paraphrased):

With this new RPM/yum stuff, do we need 5733-OPS anymore?

Nobody gave an answer. Maybe it's really obvious to those who are in the
know, but I'm still wondering this myself. Specifically, does the
"bootstrap" for RPM depend on 5733-OPS at all?

(Note that I am NOT asking whether all the software in 5733-OPS is available
in RPM form. I mean, that's also a valid question I suppose, but not the one
I'm focused on.)

John Y.
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